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The Spirits' Book, Jay Em
Hello,
I would like to share some information with you regarding my studies
into Spiritism.
The information contained here is based purely on my opinions and
experiences. Some of the subject matter will contradict some of your
beliefs so I will apologise in advance.
About 18 months ago I decided to do research into spirituality. The
reason I started the research was because of an experience I had when
invited to a séance about 7 or 8 years ago. I am sure that
I don't have to go into the details as you have probably heard it all
before.
I decided to read as many book written by Mediums as possible to see if
I could get an explanation of the phenomena I witnessed. The third book
I read was "The Spirits' Book". I remember thinking to myself something
like "This is IT!".
The day after I started reading the book a lot of weird coincidences
started to occur around me. I was bombarded with a lot of spiritual
events from the TV, radio, newspaper and other sources. I know that
when you are thinking of certain objects you tend to notice that object
more than usual but this was ridiculous.
I won't go into the details but I eventually got the "hint" to try
meditation. I sat down quietly one day, put some music on, and
started to meditate. This was when I noticed a presence in my
mind so I said "Hello". It said "Hello" back to me.
I started up a conversation with this voice mostly on spirituality and
science and discussed many of the topics in the Spirits' Book. The
voice agreed with many of the ideas and was non-committal about others.
But still it was just a voice. I told the voice that I could not
believe that it was real until I had some sort of validation.
I received a validation (of sorts) when my wife came in half a hour
later and told me that a woman she barely knew came up to her and told
her that she talks to her spirit guides. This was totally unprompted.
This is the kind of coincidence I was talking about earlier. I have had
many conversations since then with this voice but I do not believe
everything (and sometimes anything) it says. I have also communicated
with other voices.
I continued my studies into spirituality and noticed that certain books
on science where coming up as coincidences for me. I read these books
especially the books on Relativity and Quantum Physics.
I do not suggest here that I am an experienced medium nor that I am an
expert in science.
I studied Spiritism for six months. I decided that the works required
some changes. These changes could be considered minor but it would
change the entire context in which you understand the Spirits' Book.
The major change was that the Universal Fluid is God's spirit and
that we evolve to this state. I know this sounds blasphemous but I was
getting a "thumbs up" from my guides.
This means nothing in itself. The end product of this modification is
you must pose the question? Where did God come from? Did God have a
maker? The mind can go crazy with this stuff.
At this point a friend gave me a copy of a book called "Conversations
with God". This book was in a similar Q&A format to The Spirits'
Book and I thought that it was unusual at the time. I read a few parts
and decided to give it back. If anything it was just a spirit playing
with the author.
After a while I decided to check the book out again at a bookstore. As
I picked it up I opened it randomly to any page and read a quote by
"God" that said something like: "I AM THE BODY OF ANOTHER"
Was this some sort of validation from my guides that the development
was correct? I don't know the answer to that but I am open to the
possibility.
After this I started to read the Conversation with God material. I do
not know if it is God talking to the author but my experiences with the
other side fit closer to this model than to Spiritism. ..or both
actually.
I noticed many similarities with The Spirits' Book. Almost a "next
version" if you like.
A have created a new posting on the CWG discussion forum at the
following link:
http://www.cwg.org/en/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5421
If you have any guidance then I will greatly appreciate it.
Thank you for your time.
Dear Jay,
Thank you for your message.
I am glad that you are developing your mediumship. Just care to use it
only for good and noble purposes, that is, only use it to help needed
people.
Doing meditation is an excellent way to develop mediumship because in
both processes we have to stop our thoughts. In mediumship we must stop
our thoughts in order to listen to other Spirits' thoughts while in
meditation
>we do that in order to better know our own self.
As to Spiritist concept of God, the Editorial of a recent Spiritist
Messenger issue talks about the issue so I'll just reproduce it here:
"The Spirits' Book's first question
shows the wisdom of Allan Kardec as well as the answer shows the wisdom
of the Spirits that worked together with him.
Kardec did not ask "Who is God?"
since such a question would carry a prejudgment, to say, understanding God as
a being, a creature. He asked "What
is God?" instead, being thus prepared for the answer that the Spirits would give: "God is the Supreme
Intelligence, First Cause of all things."
The answer given by the Spirits
didn't give any chance for a misinterpretation.
They didn't say that God was "the Creator" but "the Primary Cause". There is a huge difference
between those two expressions. The
idea of God as the Creator is present in other religions and it has been frequently questioned by the advances
of science. After all, the more science advances the further back in time
the idea of a Creator must go. In the past one could say that God created
the plants, the animals, the planets,
no longer today. Even when some theologians tried to see in Stephen Hawkins' proposal of the Big Bang
the moment of creation, the famous
and brilliant scientist said that his theory did not account for a Creator.
Being the Primary Cause however is
something rather different. The primary cause is primary, that is, no matter how
further back in time science shows the mechanism of evolution working, the
primary cause will always stay before
it as the starting point of everything."
As you can see, there is no meaning for Spiritists in asking who
created God. God is not a creature so God can't have had a Creator. God
is the primary cause, primary no matter how far back we go in time.
Much peace
Renato Costa
Hi Renato,
Thanks for getting back to me. I agree with most of your reply. Where I
have a problem is that these concepts are based on a 3 dimensional view
of the universe with time flowing. The words "First Cause" has a
implied time
component.
I do not profess to understand everything about this subject but
studies into Relativity and even the lastest research into Quantum
Physics show that time appears to be spacial.
I bring this topic up here because I would like you to consider the
case that all 4 dimensions where created and filled at the same time.
Even using the word "time" in the last sentence doesn't make a lot of
sense. We simply
are tranversing a portion of it at the moment.
This is the explaination of time given in the CWG material fits in with
my experiences with the spirit world.
Another thing I would like you to consider is the level of intelligence
answering in the CWG books. I will accept that it is totally man-made.
But what if it is a spirit? The intelligence replying, in my opinion,
is greater than that of the responses in The Spirits' Book. Also there
does not seem to be any evil intention in the replies either.
The Spirits' Book tells you to critically analyse the information given
by any spirits. I don't think the Spiritism model allows for highly
intelligent, benevolent spirits to mislead us.
Where does this leave s? Isn't it possible that both understandings
belong under the one umbrella. All either side has to do is admit that
they do not know everything there is to know about spirituality.
Could you imagine what would happen if two forms of spirituality merged
into one. Instead of fighting each other, there would be world-wide
interest in a positive way. Who knows what would happen.
Thanks again for you reply.
Dear Jay,
There are infinite paths to perfection and none of them is worse or
better than anyone else. Each Spirit is dwelling in a specific position
in its chosen path so the paths that it can see ahead are all possible
choices for
it to follow from that point onwards. So, we don't need to make two
belief systems get close to one another. The important thing is that
the one we choose is complete enough to explain our main doubts about
everything that calls our attention. For a very ignorant person for
example a very primitive belief system will do a good job. For a
scientist, on the her hand, only a complex one may fit. Spiritism is
for me the most adequate belief system at the evolution stage where I
am now. There must be another one most appropriate for you. Go on in
your search and be successful.
As to the meaning of time I keep to the traditional one. Time is not a
physical dimension as 3D space is. Considering it as a 4th dimension is
only a theoretical approach that serves a scientific model. We must
always have in mind, however, that models are not reality but just
rough approaches to it. History has plenty of examples that a model
that is valid for some time may be discarded by a better one not a long
time after.
Much peace
Renato